It doesn't define curls as much as I'd like

My hair is naturally curly and I use Paul Mitchell leave in conditioner along with Sebastian molding mud to define my curls and it works great just thought I'd try your products for curls since I love the shampoo and other products I have tried but this was a miss for me.

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Whip

I love the Whip! Leaves my curls bouncy and soft. No stiffness!

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